Testimonio de John Christy en el senado, y desfase entre modelos climáticos y realidad

Pues yo se lo mandé a su blog a "Don ciencia" (el vídeo ) esta madrugada, con un pequeñísimo comentario diciendo que visto lo que decía Christy en el video, estaba claro que habría que suprimir las tasas al CO2, y que posiblemente se reactivara, al menos un poco, la economía, y se podrían evitar algunos recortes, (que es de lo que iba el hilo ) Por supuesto mi post no ha salido.Ni ha puesto el video. Pero en cambio hay uno nuevo de Lucía Nart, en loa de Mas, y contra Aguirre...

Copio un post de Allan Mac Rae en WUWT, lleno de "perlas ecológicas", y con el nombre del autor de cada perla, debajo. ”My three goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with its full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First! ”A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” Ted Turner, Founder of CNN and major UN donor ”The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.” Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation ”Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies, Author: “Population Bomb”, “Ecoscience” ”The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil.” Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview ”We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, Lead author of many IPCC reports ”Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” Sir John Houghton, First chairman of the IPCC ”It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” Paul Watson, Co-founder of Greenpeace ”Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.” David Brower, First Executive Director of the Sierra Club ”We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation ”No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment ”The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” Emeritus Professor Daniel Botkin ”Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” Maurice Strong, Founder of the UN Environmental Program ”A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-Development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.” Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies, Author: “Population Bomb”, “Ecoscience” ”If I were reincarnated I would wish to return to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.” Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, husband of Queen Elizabeth II, Patron of the Patron of the World Wildlife Foundation ”The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization we have in the US. We have to stop these third World countries right where they are.” Michael Oppenheimer Environmental Defense Fund ”Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” Professor Maurice King ”Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.” Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit ”Complex technology of any sort is an assault on the human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it.” Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute ”I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. it played an important part in balancing ecosystems.” John Davis, Editor of Earth First! Journal

Yo no podía ver el gráfico (ahora sí) (?) así que me he ido a donde la Curry. He pasado a toda velocidad y me he parado cuando he visto tu comentario en la discusión "agronómica", que era un poco OT, pero muy bien. Uno de ellos saca a colación la base de datos de los Idso, que es una verdadera joya. En su día estuve entresacando los artículos que daban resultados negativos a mayor concentración de CO2; se me quedó el listado a medias, pero había unos cuantos (ahora está esperando en una caja en un guardamuebles). Los resultados eran muy difíciles de comparar porque las condiciones de cultivo en cada ensayo son muy variadas. Cuando alguien te acuse de "Idsoísmo", saca a la palestra esta base de datos ( http://www.co2science.org/data/plant_growth/dry/dry_subject.php ) y di que los Idsos han hecho un formidable y honesto trabajo de recopilación, pues incluyen todo lo que encuentran, también artículos contrarios a sus tesis. Todos pensamos que algo más de CO2 es bueno. Pero sabemos muy poco. Es cierto que los Idso tienen cierto sesgo y barren para casa, pero saben muy bien de lo que hablan 🙂